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I haven't thought it completely through, but I don't think lossy compression works that way. If it did, for instance, then each generation of minidisc dubbing would significantly short the song. In Petr's example of 0.4 seconds shorter in a four minute song (with one minidisc generation), then ten generations of dubbing would make the song 4 seconds shorter. And I haven't heard anything about multiple minidisc generations shortening songs in this fashion; only about the reduction in sound quality. Generally, lossy compression reduces the complexity of the signal and not it's timing. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com