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I only found the manual to be on the "lean" side of things - not quite "glib", though. I was impressed at how small it was for such a powerful unit. You could lose it the junk mail if you're weren't careful. They are missing certain features in the manual though. I believe that checking available memory isn't even in there (holding stop and copy at the same time). But I'm not complaining. I still find myself flipping through the manual while I'm playing and I'm glad that it isn't the size of a phone book. -- Tim -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnelson@metrocast.net] Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 12:38 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping pads and ambient sounds / likely repeater correction At 11:26 AM 9/8/01 -0700, you wrote: >Which leads me into the next topic: Glib and friendly manuals. I, for one, >hate them... Does this bug anyone else on the list? I've seen quite a few dour and hostile ones that don't seem to impart the information any better. To me, it's not so much about the tone it's written in as the clarity of the instruction. The ones that bug me are the ones that were poorly translated from a foreign language. I swear that some companies try to save money and just use Babelfish... I'm not sure about the 'Peater, but if the manual is in the same style as the one for the Filter Queen, it's not so bad. It starts with connection instructions, moves to an overview of the controls, then a deeper explanation of what the controls actually do, then presents variations on the connection instructions which may be more appropriate for a user's personal setup, gives example settings, and lists the technical specs. While the tone remains pleasant throughout, the only part that I'd really characterize as 'glib' or salesmanlike is the Introduction page, and that's sort of to be expected anyway. Is the Repeater manual quite a bit 'glibber' throughout? -t