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I found this posted by one of the Administrators at the Electrix websit forum. It sounds to me like they have a perception problem of what is required of a good looping device. Steve jamie Administrator posted 09-07-2001 01:00 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- There is an automatic cross-fade on loops recorded on Repeater, however, with ambient loops no matter how tricky one tries to be, there will almost always be a subtle 'bump'. The best way around this is to do multiple overdubs (2-3 should do) using the same signal. Best, Jamie.