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my thoughts exactly, john. i would have preferred not to see this topic come up... it's bound to be divisive and we're all trying to deal with our aroused feelings as best we can anyway. however, the time to nip it in the bud was when it first started. it hasn't come up on the other mailing lists i'm on (and i haven't started it either). to go after someone who merely responds to an earlier post is not fair. mark sottilaro even got in not one, not two, but three frickin' posts on the tragedy before he chimed in that it was best to get back on the music topic. talk about a double standard... i liked rick's post. logical and reasoned, as they usually are. believe it or not, i'm not trying to provoke anybody. but i didn't start this thread either; i'm reacting to it. i'm proud to be an American, but it's hard to take shit from folks who simply have *no concept* of the real pain and loss of life that just occurred. kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: John Tidwell [mailto:wedgehed@yahoo.com] > > > But Daddy, he started it! > > > > If you had come down on the topic earlier, I would > not have added to it (well, probably not). > > > John > > > --- Kim Flint <kflint@loopers-delight.com> wrote: > > At 10:42 PM 9/11/2001, John Tidwell wrote: > > >--- Andy Soto <smaug@servidor.unam.mx> wrote: > > > > > > > Somebody has to tell this: > > > > > >And someone has to respond. > > > > no, you don't. take it off the list! this is not the > > place for this kind of > > discussion. > > > > kim