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----- Original Message ----- From: David Beardsley <db@biink.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> > > > > luca writes: > > > > surely played music by *definition* is abstract, unless you > > > > are using samples or trying to imitate a real-world thing > > > > with an instrument (which is less common than "just playing"...) > > >so, would you consider the whole poetry not abstract because it is > written ? > > >I think there can be "abstract" music as well there is "figurative" > music. > > >certain art is not abstract because of the medium used to express it, > there > > >is a lot else more. > > > > when you talk about art, "abstract" is usually the opposite of > > "representational" -- as in "what goes this represent?" "nothing, > > it's abstract." > > > > Only music concrete and program music represent anything. > > All other sorts of music are abstract by definition! > > So Highway Star by Deep Purple and War Pigs by Black Sabbath are abastract? So I read this now and realise these pieces fall under program music. How about....can't think of anything. I typed too soon and hit that enter key. * David Beardsley * http://biink.com * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley