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Good thoughts, Jan. Personally, I've been writing TOO much software lately! Though it is looper software, it is not looper music. This leads to a kind of creative musical constipation. Painful condition. Soon, I will not be able to hold back and it will fly out! Watch out! Stand back! I believe we are not computers, also. Most creative people I know think of themselves as a conduit. For me, I certainly feel that the music comes from outside of me. Speaking very personally, it is a form of worship for me. Perhaps the techniques, cliches, and riffs that we play serve as rituals, meaningless in themselves and effective only as they bring us to "the place." We must learn to discard them as necessary or look at them with new eyes. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com