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Andy- I think delay mode on the echoplex will do what you want. Delay mode is almost exactly like loop mode with a few minor distinctions. One of them is that the expression pedal input on the back controls input volume to the loop instead of feedback like it normally does. (the front panel feedback knob still does feedback. Using the foot volume control into a delay line is actually pretty useful itself, but that is a different story.) Insert and Multiply still work the same in delay mode as they do in loop mode. So what you could do is, use a pedal in the expression jack. Whenever you want to do your multiply without any audio added, put the echoplex into delay mode. (you can switch it on the fly while loops are going, if you need to.) Then just turn the loop input volume down and do your multiply or insert. Then turn it back up again whenever you want to add stuff to the loop. This even gives you the flexibility to decide any time, even in the middle of a multiply, when you want to be adding audio or not, while playing continuously. so as you are doing the multiply or insert, you could be grabbing snippets of whatever you happened to be playing at the time and throw it into the loop, using the foot control. hope this helps, kim At 12:14 AM 9/27/2001, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >Hi Matthias > > >My biggest wish for the new loop4 software is (apart from the crazy > stuff) > > >to > > >be able to Multiply without having to overdub, if only in delay mode. > > > > You are not the first one to want this. I never really understood > > what for, but... >Well, I'd like to create a loop that repeats a simple figure a number of >times, but then has an Insert of something different. >AAAAAABAAAAAABAAAAAAB >etc. >...but I want to be able to 'solo' while the simple figure is being >multiplied. >I can make the loop how I want it, but only by keeping quiet while the >multiply happens. ( Someone suggested that I use delay mode and muted the >loop input, but that would get in the way of recording the different >section >with Insert) > ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com