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Oh Devious One, Here's the deal on Plasma. The only reasons why you personally would want to buy Plasma (where you already have SONAR XL, ACID 3.0 and Fruityloops) is the Plasma FXPad plug-in and the Bonus CD of ACID-format loops. Plasma is essentially a scaled down version of SONAR (less hi-end features) with Dance/DJ loop content, Fruityloops Express, and one new Plug-in (the FXPAD) In my opinion, $29 bucks isn't too much money to pay for a cool plug-in. The Plasma FXPad is an automatable DirectX 8 effect. This will plug-in to SONAR or any other DirectX 8-compatible program. It has a variety of multieffect presets to choose from that have various combinations of reverb, chorus, flange, distortion, etc. You can control the effect in realtime by clicking in the window with your mouse (kind of like a Korg Kaoss Pad) or by moving a joystick. Every point along the X or y Axis corresponds to a different levels of parameters in the effects. So you can dynamically morph your sounds. You can also record your movements with the mouse or joystick as envelope data, so you can automate the effect and later edit the moves that you did. The FXPad also has an autocycle feature, you can set up a circle (or oval or line) in the effect window so the effect will automatically modulate between different points. You can set this modulation to occur at various time intervals between 1 to 32 times per measure. The Bonus CD of ACID-format loops has some overlap of the content that comes with SONAR XL, but there is a good amount of new loops from X-Mix and PowerFX. So that's the skinny on Plasma, if anyone has any other questions let me know. Now I have a question for you, what could we add to SONAR (or change in it) that would reverse the 18:2 remix ratio you mentioned in your email? Thanks, Carl -----Original Message----- From: Dj Devious D [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:47 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Computer Based Looping Software (was RE: What machine can do this please?) Oh my, a Cakewalk person......? What's the deal with Plasma !!!! I want the app (I own Sonar XL), but I am leary of buying Music Apps, sight unseen. (Case in point... I purchased MTV Music Creator, and that app SUCKED big time, plus it crashed my machine). I know the price is Sweet for Plasma... (I've seen it for $29.00, for registered Sonar users), but is it worth my buying it ? There is no demo, no good information (it's funny how you guys compared it to ACID Music.... that's like Comparing Cakewalk Pro 9, to PowerTracks Pro Audio 2.0... but I digress). I guess, I should get it... my ACID Pro 3.0, has sort of rendered my SONAR app... uhhhh almost obsolete. ( I do 20 remixes a week, for my ReMix show, and out of the 20... 18 are done in ACID, opposed to 1 or 2 being done in either FruityLoops 3.1.1 or Sonar XL). Oh, the best Beat/ReMix Combo... FruityLoops 3.1.1 and BeatSlicer (by Zero-X) Lucien E. Darthard A Goal Is A Dream With A Deadline Placed On It. http://go.to/ldarthard/