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You wrote: “Now I have a question for you, what could we add to SONAR (or change in it) that would reverse the 18:2 remix ratio you mentioned in your email?” ________________________________________________________________________ ************************************************************************ ________________________________________________________________________ That is an intriguing question. Well, first maybe I should shed some light on what I do as a “remix” artist. As a ReMix Artist, my sole task is to take existing tunes, and render them more dance, Dj, or radio friendly. Sometimes a song does not have the correct 4/4 beat breaks, that make it mixable with other tunes. Sometimes the song is too long, and needs to be radio edited, or sometimes it just won’t work in a dance environment… that is when the remix Artist comes into play. Some may say that I am a glorified Dj, while others might deem me a God, but I am the one who enhances a songs potential. “Huh…?” you stutter. What’s that got to do with Sonar, ACID or anything? Well when it comes to enhancing a song, I sometimes become a musician. I create musical nuances to add to my tapestry of sound, that’s where looping and beat matching come into play. A lot of folks have read my raves on ACID, and what it can do, and a lot of that falls on deaf ears in this forum, for most of the folks Loop live with outboard hardware, whereas I sit in front of my PC, and Two Turntables. But, alas that will soon change… I will be heard, I will… oh I digress again. I must also admit that I bought my copy of SONAR XL off of EBay, with a Korg KAOSS Pad. (I got it from an ex-Dj type, who was getting married, and he was selling his gear. I got the ORIGINAL Sonar CD’s, and The Kaoss Pad in mint condition for $275.00 USD, which is a deal, since SONAR XL costs over $700.00 USD) So I was thrilled with my purchase. At the time, that was the combo, and in actuality I just wanted the KAOSS Pad. So Sonar sat around in my Software bin, for a week or so, until installed it, and wanted to do “Midi Magic”. Now, I have used Cakewalk, Metro and a bevy of “Music” creation software, and since I am not a Notes, and Keys guy, that stuff was always… useless to me. I have had my best luck with “step recording” based apps, which allow me to “feel” the melody, like in FruityLoops or Orion Pro. I find the SONAR interface to be, un-intuitive, and too pretentious. It’s great for folks, who have used Cakewalk since day one, but the “new” remix artist, needs something a bit more straight forward. Let me outline what I do, typically in my remix. 1. I identify the file – Sounds simple, but important. 2. I calculate the BPM and song key before hand – very important in Beat Mixing. 3. I slice the song up into parts, Chorus, Hook, Main Vocals, and instrumental breaks. 4. I then construct a pattern; a sort of 32 beats in 32 beats out so that the remix is uniform. 5. I take a small 4 beat pattern, and slice it up, so that it adds variety to the composition, I add additional samples, and “instrumentation” also. 6. I then reassemble these pieces, for the complete remix. Sonar does not always give me that flexibility. The few times I have used SONAR, was in a few cases where I wanted to add a midi sequence, and I wanted to remove an instrument that was in the sequence. ACID does not allow that, so SONAR was perfect… but my use of midi is a rare bird indeed. Syncing up loops with different tempos is a bear in SONAR. I truly do not know how to perform this function. Now ACID allows tempo changes on the fly, and key changes, but SONAR, seems to be a little stiff in that department. SONAR needs to be less clicky, and more drag and drop. I hate having to search through the menus for functions, and the functions are not always “labeled” appropriately. Now, I have been in forums, with folks who use ACID, SONAR and apps in that vein, and they seem to be polarized. ReMixers – Dj’s use ACID / Musicians use SONAR, and rarely do they meet. I guess you guys could come up with SONACID or ACIDAR, but would that matter? I learned a long time ago, one must cater to one’s audience. If SONAR is doing great business, with musicians buying it, what does it matter if a lone Dj/remix artist can’t really reap the rewards of the app? Cakewalk needs to “get that paper”. Lucien E. Darthard A Goal Is A Dream With A Deadline Placed On It. http://ldarthard.ohgo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp