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My personal favourite is the Pitch Bender in Cool Edit Pro. sorry it's not free Rick! Best trick is loop duplicate a small section, then run it through the Pitch Bender, which allows you to specify pitch bends over 10 octaves. A bit like scratching or playing with the reels on a tape deck, but very reminiscent of the optical disk tone generator used by Stockhausen in Kontakte. You can speed the loop up till it becomes a waveform (and so on). andy butler