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<snip> Then Andy came up with a simpler idea that I will implement if nobody rejects it totally: In DelayMode, during Multiply, we will consider the state of Overdub, which means that if Overdub is on (was activated (Hold) before the Multiply started), the input continues off and FeedBack at maximum during the whole Multiply (including rounding). I find it consistent and that way everone has a simple way to do a silent Multiply. How is that? -----> http://Matthias.Grob.org This gets my vote--I look forward to the upgrade. As far as pro/amateur--this is what I see. The ones who have to pay their bills by making art are in competition with the ones who do it for fun. The people who hire any of them don't care which ones need the money, so they hire the ones who charge the lowest price. So the musician using modern technology has to spend more money than the acoustic or traditional one (assuming they don't buy an expensive instrument) but has trouble making the extra money back from employment. The amateur is already paying his bills from his "day job", and so money is less of an issue. As technology makes it easier for one person or several people to create a large and interesting sound, more amateurs make it easier for the people who hire musicians to use amateurs. I am speaking of show business, of course. Bottom line is, don't quit your day job (can anyone tell me where that expression came from--first citation etc.) Back to work! Gary