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Actually, I'm always amazed at how much a pain in the butt getting sample loops to be what I want, downloading, archiving, remembering what you have... so much so that I find it a LOT easier (and more fulfilling) to just make them! There's a bunch of pretty good apps, Reason is one, that will let you tweak drums to your heart's content. AND THEY WILL BE YOURS! I find if you do it on Hardware, you don't have to drag a computer to a gig. The Korg eTribe stuff is pretty good, and Roland makes a a bunch of different "grooveboxes" in different price points. Check stores for older stuff too, it's often still very good. Mark Sottilaro On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 11:50 PM, leocavallo wrote: > >> I am just looking >> for a cheap, but legal way to get quality loops: non-commercial / >> home-made >> ones, ok ? > > no problem. > try the samples @ www.groundloops.com > > ciao > leo > > > www.groundloops.com > > c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s > f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e >