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> >> if the current design is selling well, there is no reason to redesign. >> if it's not selling well, they would refuse to make a new design. >> it's a catch-22... > > right. Well, not really. If you've noticed, the Honda Civic sells really well, for years and years, yet they still change the design and "upgrade" it. I'm sure a solid state device like a looper (digital) that really doesn't wear out has a longer life, but I think it's time. Mark