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I think one of the reasons I seem a bit curt on this subject is that I work very hard every day as a visual designer. I wouldn't THINK of trying to design the guts of a piece of digital electronics, or write the code that makes it go. So, why does the opposite hold true? I find this all the time. While in college, my C++ instructor, seeing that I was uninterested in programming, decided to show me the wonders of java on his web page. IT WAS HORRIBLE in every way. Seriously ugly, with every annoying animated gif he could find jammed into a train wreck of a page. I laughed at him and he seemed perplexed. "What?" he asked. I just replied, I'm glad there are people like you in the world, as I'm glad there are people like me. The point is, I know what I can and can't do. I have no problem saying, "that's not my bag, man!" Why (especially when it comes to my field, graphics and animation) does everyone in the world think, "sure, I'll just change the font in my cad program and it will be fine." ***Now, I'm not talking about stuff people do for their own enjoyment, and I'm not saying that not having an education makes you bad at something.*** If you enjoy doing something, do it. Don't let anyone discourage you. If you've never had a single lesson, but spend hours learning and practicing something, you can stop reading now. But if it's something you "dabble in" and you know it's "not your bag" and someone is paying you to do it, go and get some help from someone who is passionate about it. Much of the world is mediocher because of this attitude. I constantly pass on jobs because I know I really don't have the skill set to do it right. Why do so many people have a problem with doing the same? Mark Sottilaro On Tuesday, October 16, 2001, at 08:33 AM, rich wrote: >> Not a problem. Common mistake people not educated in the visual arts >> make. You can't judge a book by a cover, but everyone does. > > just to clarify here, Mark. Was it that email failed to transmit my > sarcasm, or are you assuming that i am uneducated in the visual arts? > > rich > > > >> Mark >> >> rich wrote: >> >>> gosh, what was i thinking? thank you for setting me straight. >>> >>> i keep forgetting that everybody buys gear for the same reason... >>> what a dunce i am. >>> >> > rich >