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don't want to speak out of turn without the man here, but it seems like dt was pretty much down for the thing, he's just really fucking busy w/ the bowie bit and whatever else. i think we need to start over and get it going again, and hopefully he will have time to join us. but let's start trudging forward on this again. maybe we should get a new rollcall of those interested, and suggestions for venues? we've all had delays in our life of late, so let's just start fresh on it? peace, phil ===== "Compassion is the sometimes fatal capacity for feeling what it's like to live inside somebody else's skin. It is the knowledge that there can never really be any peace and joy for me until there is peace and joy finally for you too." -Frederick Buechner "The jewel is in the lotus." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com