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> >i must admit i'm suspicious of these sites that offer something for >>free that requires manpower, organizing, manufacturing and >>distribution. no one works for free, so the costs are hidden >>somewhere. > >That's the $14 base price per shirt. yup. shirts can be bought wholesale for about 2-3 dollars for quality products. i think jason's costs per shirt were down in the 7-9 dollar range by the time he got finished... he would need to confirm, but i think we're giving LD a few dollars per shirt AFTER shipping costs. so if kim is sporting some expensive jewelry or riding in a hot car at namm, we know where the money went! at least he'll see us coming with our shirts on and he can duck out... be sure that $300/hr prostitute wears low heels, kim, or we'll catch up to you and beat the cash outta ya... i do like the idea of being able to produce limited numbers of promotional items at a fixed cost. that's sweet. a local printer would absolutely gouge you to make one offs or very limited runs. rich