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You could try that, the midi fretless sound is not that good, but it is usable. I had the same problem and pretty much solved it by using a 7 string guitar with thick flatwound strings (011-056), mixing a bit of octaver (in parallel) and playing fingerstile. Another solution (a tad pricier) could be getting a warr guitar (or austin douglas) or a double neck (I think danelectro builds a doubleneck with guitar and bass necks). Some Boss and Roland guitar processors (Vf-1 etc...) also have a fretless emulator (they call it de-fretter, I think, I tried it sometime ago, but wasn't really impressed by the result) Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Peters <mpeters@csi.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: bass sound with guitar > I'd love to be able to sometimes play bass on my guitar. The harmonizer bass > settings suck. My dream would be a real good fretless bass sound. What > methods are available? If I had a Roland hexaphonic pickup, could I >create a > fretless bass sound with some synth or VG8 like device? > > = michael peters > = computer graphics + electronic music > = www.mpeters.de/mpeweb > >