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>>> It occurs to me that we are defining Frippertronics as being only the physical technique of looping, that the "heartless venal one" was in a sense putting his copyright/trademark on that technique. I always thought it was simply a description for the end product, which wouldn't have existed without the musical input of RF.<<< why on earth am I getting into this? but anyway... Perhaps it's just a way of labelling sounds on an album that are made with a guitar that don't sound like it. When I've done bits of session stuff where i've used E-Bow and pitch shift to create textural stuff, I've always wanted some kind of term that doesn't involve me listing 'e-bow bass, reverbed bass, strummed bass etc. etc.' or adding some text to someone else's sleeve notes saying something like 'all the synth sounds on track xxx are on a bass..' - it'd be much easier to credit me with what I get listed as in one band 'bass and weirdness', and leave it to people to research it if they want to know what that's about. For Fripp, perhaps Frippertronics is a way of claiming those sounds that could've been keyboards or whatever... ...then again, perhaps not Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk