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Haven't tried anything from VisualSound - but they do show up on eBay from time to time... At 04:20 PM 2001/11/19 -0500, dt wrote: >sean_@mindspring.com writes: > >but hi-gain distortion, only ErnieBall results in nothing > >getting thru to the pre. >the volume peds from VisualSound work well, like that --- but maybe >they're >out-of-print? >best, >dt / s-c