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>I am interested in hearing what these do to audio- I hear descriptions of >"mangling" and so forth- and I need a replacement for my PDS8000 which >colors/damages my signal- any examples anywhere? on my site ... on the music page (not the "albums" page): "Summertime" "Nice Girls Don't Have Toungue Rings" "Visiting Mr Greene" "Round One" all these tracks feature ambient loops (DOH!! excuse me ... "Frippertronic Impersonation Loops" ... i wouldn't want to mangle the good sensibilities of the looper list here) which i made on an RDS 7.6 with the delay and feedback bias all tweaked the hell out on the board. as in, i opened it up and adjusted the delay and feedback trimpots so i could get 34 _really_ shitty seconds of delay with full feedback outta this thing, as opposed to 7.6 seconds of shitty delay. a cool thing about this delay is that when you re-adjust the delay time bias like this, the nyquihst filter does _not_ shift accordingly .. so you get some _great_ aliasing. I am probably going to get another one of these when i build my modular synthesizer ... it's got _mucho_ connections for CV/trigger signals. Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com