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I would not blow a grand on a handsonic and then take it apart! It feels very toy like to me. Not worth the money at all IMO. If it was under $400 then maybe. Better to take apart one of those cheap Yamaha all in one drum controllers if you want to hack. However you might want to look into a Drumkat midi controller. Much more programmable midi wise. Check out http://www.alternatemode.com. First it's a good quality midi percussion controller with 10 pads that support an after touch of sorts plus 9 trigger inputs. It has extensive midi control and routing functions, can accept breath controller and continuous controller info, etc... It does sort of have a midi based looping feature where you hit a pad and go into record mode. Hit that pad again and it starts playing what you played. You can also add to the pattern. An electronic drum module like the Roland Td7 also does this. Someone from Starrlabs is part of this group - I've been drooling over the drumbar: http://www.starrlabs.com/percussion.html -----Original Message----- From: just john [mailto:just-john@just-john.com] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:44 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: [OT] Handsonic's Potential 4 Wackiness ... Sorry to be so Off Topic, but now I've seen evidence that at least three other of you have Roland Handsonics, and I was wondering if you've done any exploring of the odder possibilities of the beast. F'rinstance: I imagine for loopers, there'd be a big temptation to fiddle with the option that allows pads to be programmed as sequence triggers. Has anybody tried that? Variations would include the "start sequence" setting and the "play next sequence event" setting (I forget what Roland calls that officially.) --- * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *