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lou, >I wish I could get my PCM80 to sound that good. Any hints please :) ..... don't know about 'good', but: when yer using those long reverbs in a gtr setup, rolloff the high end as low as 2k, and set the lowend verb-response to a smallish divisor (to keep the low end of the gtr 'clearer'). also, ya could try some randomisation in the reverb tails, and abnormally long pre-delays to keep the gtr 'attack' clear..... and, when pitch-shifting, try some kinda delays on the p.s., w/modulation of the shift --- followed by some verb..... best, dt / splattercell