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pbadore@rochester.rr.com writes: >I don't like people left and right e-mailing my private address. as it's been a while, i can't really remember why i emailed you, privately --- maybe it was because this had become so clearly 'off-topic', maybe it was merely another of my mistakes. pb>I dislike LD for printing them. I occasionally make exceptions but this is not one >of them. During this past month I debated whether to reply to this or not >and have obviously decided. I would appreciate it if you would leave me alone >after this, and if you attempt to do otherwise I'll delete your message >unread. Feel free to submit a copy of this to LD as I don't feel like >resubscribing just for the sake of one letter. i'll admit that i'm confused, here, again --- maybe you could let me know if you receive this email; i will post it to LD, w/your post intact --- as maybe you'll only see it, there, presuming that you continue to scan the LD archives..... pb>> >What about *interpretation*, the key issue here? I resent your sarcasm >> >represented by the asterisks, dt>> on the subject of interpretation --- i use asterisks in my email to merely >> *stress* a word, not for sarcasm. >> i'm not a sarcastic guy. pb>I seem to recall "elecTORNica". Everyone is sarcastic one way or another. that wasn't meant as sarcasm, just cheap humor. pb>There is also no need for you to stress anything. Just write your messages >straight. well, that's how i speak, as well --- with exaggerated dynamics; though, i have often been accused of verbal ellipsis. pb>> >but I also apologize if I wasn't clear enough >> >at the beginning. dt>> don't worry; we're just talking, & i apparently misunderstood your >> intentions. pb>> >I assure everyone I'm not crazy or making this up when >> >I say I found a few downloads on either LD (might have been CD1 but >they're >> >deleted) or off Elephant Talk but can't recall exactly where. i *certainly* never said nor implied anything about anyone being 'crazy'. pb>> >Earlier >> >today >> >I made a search but to no avail. But these people labelled their work >> >"Soundscapes" in relation to KC material. Hence my comments. dt>> is that where this started? >> again --- i had no idea that this is what you were talking about >referring >> to --- >> confusion. pb>Then why did you get involved in the first place? i got involved, as i was tweaked at the thought that someone (whom i thought was new at LD) might mis-perceive *all* loop-people to be dedicated to slavishly aping robert fripp's 'soundscapes'; i was not aware that you were specifically referring to downloads at a particular website; my mistake! pb>I've looked at the >archives and notice there's rarely a subject you haven't added your two >cents to. well, this may be wrong, but..... i am trying to continue w/some kinda participitation in/contribution to the looping-'community', and, since i do this looping-thing pretty much every day, i figure there ought to be *some* useful-to-somebody-bits in a portion of the crap that i spout..... but, maybe not: that's one risk that i continue to take --- that of being an ass, and publicly so. pb>The original subject was "KC in SF - No Loop Content". Naturally >Crimsonesque & Frippesque terms were bound to be used. Aside from our >argument I've probably inputted about three times and only if it's >something >I was familiar with. You don't see me blabbing about David Torn, do you? >Unless, of course, he tried to attack me with some stupid >misinterpretation >of my comments! If you don't know or care to know about something, STAY >OUT >OF IT!!! (Now THAT's stress!) pb>> >But dt>> why, but? pb>Why not? Again, I don't really want to know. pb>> >let's put your original thoughts in a proper perspective. If I said: >> >"Hey you motherfuckin' asshole loopers! You don't know shit about what >> >you're doin'! All you're doing is copying soundscapes which was >invented >> >by the great Robert Fripp years ago after he created Frippertronics. >> >Copycat candyasses!" >> >NOW I deserve every counterattack from the past couple of days! >However, >> >I accept your apology; but please keep in mind you started a precedent dt>> if i started a precedent, that precedent was not meant as a personal >>attack, pb>But ya DID, Blanche, ya DID make a personal attack! well, that was truly unintentional; i thought that i was addressing what appeared to be an 'issue' --- at least, for me. and: i have every hope & confidence that your personal & musical contributions to this screwy world are broadly valuable, either now or in the future. dt>> just my thoughts & responses presented in this environment which >encourages >> the exchange of ideas. pb>Yeah, at my expense. that's not at all what i meant to do; that's the mistake for which i apologise. dt>> i am indeed sorry that you perceived it otherwise; >> i meant no personal harm. pb>> >that >> >fortunately is now waning, aside from Sottilaro's continuing >childishness >> >which has long worn out (even I stopped the hanky lines). Our society >> >today enjoys attacking itself and who cares if there's no real reason >for >> >it? so, why, then, would you stoop to attacking mark sottilaro's innocently good-humored posts? dt>> actually, there was a reason for my response, which i tried to make clear. pb>No, you didn't. i *tried* to make it clear. to reiterate: i was tweaked at the thought that someone (whom i thought was new at LD) might mis-perceive *all* loop-people to be dedicated to slavishly aping robert fripp's 'soundscapes'; i was not aware that you were specifically referring to downloads at a particular website; my mistake! pb>> >I'm also sorry I wasted everyone's time, including my own. Once I had >> >gotten everything together I was hoping to put something on LD, but >now >> >everything's gone to waste. Perhaps in time I'll either return or - >more >> >likely - find another outlet for my music. i sincerely hope that you find an outlet for your music, at LD or otherwise. dt>> while i'm not sure that i consider LD as an outlet for music, it is a good >> place for expressing ideas / information / thoughts, as regards looping >& >> such; there are *many* threads besides this one (see the archives), and >i >> think it might be the only net-place that is really loop-centric --- >> sorry if you are somehow dissuaded from hanging. pb>"Somehow"?? I'm a villain because of your assumption and don't argue this! i certainly do *not* perceive you as a villain! i perceive you as someone with whom i've had a somewhat obtuse verbal misunderstanding. pb>I admit I'm hardly what you'd call a professional, but does that mean people >of your caliber need to look down your noses at people of mine? i do not 'look down my nose' at you; i was --- or, so i thought --- trying to bring another perspective to the discussion. pb>It strikes me odd that you have so much time on your hands to participate in this! huh? pb>Even Fripp only contributes to ET once every few years! ..... does that statement imply that you believe that i should, as a rule, follow his example? while i love & respect RF, that is not gonna happen: different strokes, etc. pb>I am disgusted that LD has turned into both a forum for you (a lot of gushing) well, if ya hung around, it'd be a forum for you, too..... as it seems to be for other folks. pb>and a commercial site for the Repeater actually, i'd say that the majority of posts relate directly to the EDP, though repeater has (naturally, due to its recent release date) made a strong showing, as have the jamman, boomerang, line6, orville, bossRC20, kyma, acid, headrush, etc etc..... pb>(a piece of shit, if you ask me). while not perfect -(but what looper is everything, to all users?)- i'm quite happy with my repeater --- it's been a very, very useful tool, for me, among others. pb>I used to work voluntarily as a DJ at a radio station in the Rochester >Institute of Technology and found nothing there but a bunch of technical >yesmen who all said the same thing. That's why I left LD: Last month >was a rerun of those horrible days (although I gotta admit, the debates >that >resulted did bring some humanity to the dullness). i'm sorry to hear of the recall of bad memories, and of the dullness. dt>> best, >> dt / s-c pb>I'd hate to see your worst. >PB damn, that's cold. dt / s-c