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Lance G. wrote: "pb i don't know, and quite frankly i'm not interested in even looking up in the archive to learn more about, due to the tone of his/her responses herein (and maybe that's not fair), but, for the record, i typically open a great many of the posts by dt, even if the subject line is not of particular interest, if only to sample the well-balanced voice of one who's life experiences seem to have had a favorable effect on both his music and his dealings with other people...pb can call this *gushing* or whathaveyou, but i can't agree with the notion that the list has become some sort of *forum* for mr. torn- his musings are as appreciated on this list as anyone's (and there are many, many more who regularly and not-so-regularly contribute ideas whom i appreciate just as well). god forbid we should start censoring ourselves on account of one person's bitter perspective." Here, here, Lance!! Being one who probably 'gushes' a bit too much on L.D. (let's just call it 'enthusiasm' for looping and music) I am totally appreciative of David Torn's input on this list. He has been generous to a fault with me, personally, and with all who come here with his considerable intelligence and experience and I have learned a great deal and been inspired a lot by his presence. I didn't even follow this thread until today (haven't had the time) and I was very impressed by how many times d/t bent over backwards to give this disgruntled and angry gentleman a way out of his vitriol.........one he never took, unfortunately. d/t tried his best, acquitted himself well and now we can all move on....... yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool)