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been thinking about some of the relevant issues in this thread in the last couple of days... this weekend was very important for me because it was the first time i played out w/ looping gear and whatnot. stage fright is something that plagued me most of my life until suddenly it just disappeared about 3 months ago. i was invited to play at a party where a bunch of people would be jamming and maybe a few people would show up and listen...a few people turned out to be about 100! had i previous knowledge that i would be putting myself on display in front of all these people i would probably have flipped out, but i was so caught up in playing that i hardly noticed the number swell, and once i did notice i was glad they were all there. as we know, when yer looping in public you always run extreme risk of fucking up in front of people, and that always scared the hell out of me before. but i had never felt more comfortable playing in front of people. this was largely to do with the fact that i really "know my gear" and am comfortable actually performing upon it, and i suppose there was a subconcious realization that the fact that i was doing something different freed me from many audience expectations. when we first started playing the other musicians were quite intriqued by what i was doing, and i'm finding quickly that fellow musicians are much more interested in how sounds are being created, and much quicker to judge the validity of such. most were very excited when i showed them the processing i was using, but i did have one fellow tell me that i was losing all the soul in my music by letting all this gear taint it. btw: i was running through a boss ds1, dd5, a DOD d12 (w/fs300), and a boss rps-10. i chose to leave the boomerang at home because i rely on it heavily and wanted the challenge of interacting with my other gear without the 'rang. i'll admit i was somewhat put off by the fellow dissing my use of gear. i understand what he means, but gear is not neccesarily automated. as we have been saying, one key to making this exciting is the level of interaction that many of us have with our gear, literally performing upon it. once the crowd showed up, i don't think most were actually aware that i was playing guitar, or that the ambient loops were coming from me. there were 2 djs playing along side and i was in full ambient/noise mode. but once the djs took a break i played for about 45 minutes on my own w/ more melody and structure and plenty of people seemed very intrigued by the sounds and the looping. at least 7-8 people came up to ask how i was "doing that" and looked over my gear w/ plenty of curiosity. pretty sure most of these people were not musicians. i knew i was going to be playing with a bunch of classic rock guys and went in with the express purpose of disturbing them. but i was thrilled that most were really into it, with the one exception. however, when i unplugged/plugged my guitar back in and looped the explosive crackle of such, and then proceed to manipulate this into a very ugly, noisy rythm loop, they just told me to "stop...now...please...". thought that was pretty funny, even though i really liked the loop. in summation: i've known for a good while now that i get extreme satisfaction from interacting with gear as instruments themselves, and the people who sat close and watched me do so as they listened to the changes seem to really enjoy both aspects of the process. 2: musicians are much more critical of process than non-musician audiences. some want to moralize the process, and when you put your intellect and heart into this, it sucks to hear that. thanks for reading all this if ya did. it matters to me that we have this lovely little community of loopers, and this performance (even if it was just at a party) was a watershed fer me, and i felt it deserved sharing here. peace, happy new year, hope yer all blessed, phil ===== "Compassion is the sometimes fatal capacity for feeling what it's like to live inside somebody else's skin. It is the knowledge that there can never really be any peace and joy for me until there is peace and joy finally for you too." -Frederick Buechner "The jewel is in the lotus." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com