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In a message dated 1/1/2002 4:01:39 PM Mountain Standard Time, KkstrtChby@aol.com writes: << I want to know the average set length and how many sets per performance you do? >> Somewhat related but perhaps not...I remember hearing Elvin Jones talk about a gig he played with John Coltrane in Philadelphia where they played the opening number for 3 hours to an audience that dwindled a little during the duration of the tune. My understanding is that Coltrane once told Miles Davis he found it hard to stop playing sometimes and what could he do about that issue. Miles' reply was "Take the horn out of your mouth". Helpful advice for looping?.....mmmmight be. bryan helm