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Hmmm, I played around with Phrazer demo a bit and it seemed straight forward. Didn't seem to suit the way I make music though. I also toyed with Live by Ableton, and that seemed a bit better, though also not for me. Speaking of thOnk, a week ago I decided to WAY upgrade my Mac based hard drive recording system, and went with a MOTU Digital Performer 3 system. If you buy one of their audio interfaces they give you a competitive discount price for Digital Performer. I used the extra cash to get the Nautilus Bundle of DP3 plugins. One of the included effects was a real time granular synthesis module that INCREDIBLE. Really fun and amazing. Like thOnk, but in real time. Developed by the thOnk people, even. I can see myself spending a LOT of time with this effect, as it's almost an instrument in itself. It got me to thinking, is there any hardware box that does something like this? Stomp thOnk? The Space Station begins to touch on a similar sound, but not quite. Mark Sottilaro just john wrote: > One-third of the way down my Ampcast page ( >http://www.ampcast.com/justjohn > ) is "Lake Ambrose," which I did last night using Bitheadz' maddening >loop > software "Phrazer." > > Expert loopers will easily figure out what I'm doing with the samples. > (The samples are thOnk (granular) warpings of my voice.) I just wanted >to > prove that it was possible to do something with this program, tho it >fights > me at every turn. > > So now if you know anybody making a horror movie taking place at a summer > camp, send 'em my way for a soundtrack. > > . > --- > * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *