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D00D!!! you GOTTA get a Digitech RDS unit and adjust the trimpots as described on Kim's excellent Loopers' Delight site. I have an RDS 7.6 tricked out to 36 seconds of SHITTY SHITTY SHITTY delay and an RDS 8000 adjusted for 16 seconds of moderately shitty delay. i don't know if these adjustments can be made to the PDS series. they make such a lovely contrast for the Repeater to work against. if you want to hear this shixnit in effect, please go to the "music" page of my website. toodles!! Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com