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Got this from another list. These guys seem to think of loops as in dance music only. A drag. But perhaps someone should go see it and report? Loop: a Panel/Performance After the Loop: Post-Techno and the Logic of Repetition Saturday, January 19th, 4:30pm FREE On the occasion of the exhibition Loop, currently on view at P.S.1 Contemporary Art Center (through January 27, 2002), this event extends the show's scope to include music and sound. While the loop has long played a key role in music - especially in electronic contexts - this event explores how musicians are negotiating that relationship, experimenting with the ways in which electronic music can move beyond the loop - by highlighting the digital "glitch" or errors rather than the continuous beat. This hybrid panel/performance features leading electronic musicians discussing the relevance of the loop as a music-making strategy in contemporary techno music and the alternatives to the loop found in the "post-techno" aesthetic. Discussions will be interspersed with live laptop sound performances by the panelists. The dialogue will focus around musical debts to 60s minimalism, the fetishization of the error, alternate temporalities (stasis, eternal return), the loop's technological determination in sound software and hardware, the context of the dance-floor, and the logic of repetition. Panelists include: Philip Sherburne (The Wire, Newmu.net, XLR8R, CMJ New Music Monthly), Taylor Deupree (12k/LINE Records), Jason Williams aka Velocette (Parallel Records), Chris Sattinger aka Timeblind (Orthlorng Musork), and Todd Hyman (Carpark Records). Philip Sherburne, the event's moderator, is a writer, editor, photographer and DJ. Since 1997 he has distinguished himself as a journalist of experimental sound and popular music -- contributing over 300 features, interviews and reviews to national and international publications. Past subjects include Steve Reich, Carsten Nicolai, Chris Cunningham, Matthew Herbert, Ursula Rucker, Kirk Degiorgio, Two Lone Swordsmen, Funkstorung, Thomas Brinkmann, Stephan Matthieu, Blectum from Blechdom, Kit Clayton, and Vikter Duplaix. His weekly column, "Needle Drops," appears every Friday at www.neumu.net/needledrops. Taylor Deupree is a Brooklyn-based musician, graphic designer, photographer, and founder of the 12k music label. Over the last four years Deupree and 12k's increasingly refined sonic mission has been to push the boundaries of minimal, digital sound art and to bring a new level of design-consciousness to music in America. Deupree and collaborator Richard Chartier also launched LINE, a subdivision of 12k that explores new, digital, conceptual, ultra-minimalist sound and the relationship between sound, silence and the art of listening. In addition to 12k, Deupree records for a number of other labels including Ritornell/Mille Plateaux, Raster music (Germany), Fallt (Ireland), and Audio.nl (Netherlands), Instinct Records, Caipirinha Music, Plastic City (USA), Disko b (Germany), Dum (Finland), and kk records (Belgium) among others. Jason Williams (aka Velocette) has been releasing music since 1994, first with Reflective Records (San Francisco), and since 1997, with his own label, Parallel Recordings. His music has been called "moody" and "melodic," and two of his works were used in Iara Lee's recent film on electronic music, "Modulations." He has collaborated with electronic luminaries such as Jonah Sharp and Kit Clayton (as i-liner). His most recent album - as Velocette - Changes in the Rhythm of Life was released on Parallel Recordings in 2001. Chris Sattinger has dwelled in the most loop obsessed genre, Minimal Techno, since 1993. Releases on Probe, Communique, Synewave, Missile and Kanzleramt explored the sonic mandala at excruciating volumes on sound systems throughout the world. His new album, Rugged Redemption (Orthlorng Musork) suggests a less repetitive sound. He is currently building a software-based intelligent composition environment that does its best to dissolve the loop into an attractor, loose and orbital. Todd Hyman founded Carpark Records in the summer of 1999. The label's output ranges from ambience to quirky techno and now boasts twelve releases, including EP's, singles, and full-length CDs by New York's So Takahashi, Minneapolis' Jake Mandell and providence, rhode island's Marumari. After the Loop is organized by Anthony Huberman with Philip Sherburne. Loop is curated by P.S.1 Chief Curator Klaus Biesenbach and was made possible, in part, by the Kunsthalle der Hypo-Kulturstiftung, Munich; HypoVereinsbank, New York; The Mondriaan Foundation, Amsterdam; The Contemporary Arts Council of the Museum of Modern Art; The Junior Associates of the Museum of Modern Art; Goethe-Institut Inter Nationes; Visual Word Systems, JVC; Lawton Fitt; and Gregor Medinger. Special thanks to Gagosian Gallery, New York. For more information, please call Anthony Huberman at 718.784.2084 ext.24 or anthony@ps1.org. -- http://whatGoes.com/submit ............................. submit to the calendar. http://ax.to/fortune ............................... a new fortune every minute.