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In the interest of looping science, how about you DO > buy > a looper, but DO NOT join the group? Well, with all due respect, I think I'll join the group BEFORE I buy a looper. You see, I have this thing about making judgements based on having as much info as possible. However, I will try not to cramp anyone's style with my lack of knowledge in technical matters... You will > become a > looping-newt, and in a couple months you can share > your > newt-loops with us. I'm hoping to advance to Gekko (not Geiko) by then- with the help of my friend Dr. Z(my, my, what does that stand for?) > Welcome. Thanksch. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com