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It is interesting, I have been a trapset drummer for 35 years (this year) and multi-percussionist/ethnic percussionist for almost 25 years and I use a tremendous amount of those techniques in my live looping shows, but I have been concentrating on found objects/invented instruments and a whole host of melodic instruments in the last three years. Because I am well known in my town as a trapset/hand drumming percussionist (trained in many traditional American, Caribbean, west African, middle, Balkan, Celtic,Indonesian, Japanese and Indian styles) I know that a lot of more conventional musicians that I know think that I'm crazy to be doing all this looping stuff. ("He plays drums so well, what's he doing with all these toys and weird instruments) but it has been my 'bliss' so far. I have an embarrassingly large collection of percussion instruments (and melodic instruments from all over the world) and more trapset drums than you can shake a stick at, but I will mention the specifics of my looping setup: I have a 'jungle/trip hot' drumset that has entirely miniature drums that I built myself: I have a 6",8" and 10" fiberglass snare drums that I custom built (down to remanufacturing snares--they don't even make 6" inch snare side heads so they were custom made, drilling hardware for snare strands and using piccolo hardware for the shallow depths. These I us on an old Ludwig triple tom holder that I have set flat so that I can rotate the drum into proper position. These drums are tuned very tightly so that when I do long buzz rolls on them (with the Vic Firth incredibly tapered SD5 Echo sticks which produce the finest orchestral buzz rolls on the planet) it sounds like I am playing stuttered rhythms on different key samples of the same drum.......all this is to simulate ReCycle styled 'drum & bass' or 'Jungle' rhythms. I then have little 10" Zldjian recording hats permanently closed (but adjustable). For my bass drums I have experimented and perfected an incredible idea that I lifted from the unusual and incredible drummer for Mari Boine's band (she is a Sami shamanic singer with one of the worlds most incredible and futuristic electro/acoustic bands) who I played on the same stage with at the Monterey World One festival. He had a 12" rototom with gaffing tape all over it on both sides, tuned to almost rippling looseness. It sounded like cardboard or paper from two feet away, but right up close it had the deepest subsonic sound that was very quiet. Normally, a big subsonic drum sound has a very long duration but because this drum was literally weighted down by the gaffing tape, the tape acted like a noise gate. The result was the dreamiest subsonic bass you've ever heard but a very short envelope so it didn't overwhelm the low end..........incredible!!! I took the idea of the Brazilian surdo players and glued thick naughahyde to both surfaces of both a 12" drum and a 14" drum (both Purecussion pancake tom toms) and tuned one up quite a bit and one down as low as I can get it: Voila: a low trip hop, half speed, TR808 kind of sound and a much higher double speed jungle sound. I mic these both with 2 AKG D112s Y-ed together with Peavey silent on/off switched soldered on the ends so I can have both on or either on (or off). I then finish it off with a whole host of weird cymbals and cymbal stackings. I"m on this kick lately to try and make my acoustic drums sound like electronic or analogue synthetic drums and have been trying out some very hip experiments with some great results. I"ll post some of those ideas if anyone is interested but, suffice it to say that I've got a very cool and really tiny looping rig. I put one Shure SM81 condenser mic over the top of everything and the D112s on the kicks and I have one drum set stereo pair (though I process them into a Lexicon Jamperson in glorious mono ;-) I then have two AKG C1000s going through two Art tube preamps into two LINE 6 DL-4s on two separate pedalboards (painted obnoxiously and easily identifiably dayglo green (primary) and dayglo pink (secondary). One I have the input routed through a morley two way switch which sends either straight in or through my old trusty red Digitech non-intelligent pitch shifter (which I love to death if it weren't for how noisy the damn rig is). The other board I have the input routed through the new Boss Intelligent shifting footpedal (much better fidelity but I can't seem to get the expression pedal to give me the smooth and theremin like sweeping capabilities of the ancient Digitech Red Whammy (question to list: has Digitech improved on the signal to noise ration of their newest model Red Whammy?) I"m still not completely satisfied with my floor board rig and want to try taking the out of one DL-4, routing it through a mono volume pedal into the second DL-4 to take advantage of looping the wonderful filter sweep and lo fi, degrading simulations of the DL-4 (question to universe: Why did Line6 do such an abysmal job of incorporating their delay models into their looping functions and leaving out midi sync capabilities on their Echo pro model <shakes head in bewilderment). All this goes into my Mackie 1402 VLZ mixer with an Electrix Repeater (which I"ve been too bloody sick to even start playing with yet) and a rack with the Electrix Filter Factory, Warp Factory (wonderful vocoder) and Mo'Fx. These rack mount devices are not the end all and be all of processing and have their own personal drawbacks but I have to say, their rhythmic syncing performance features make them ROCK for live shows. To have square wave tremolos synced to loops synced to the LFO on the Filter box and then to have the ability to Vocode the whole kit and caboodle in really time while I rhythmically can engage and disengage the effects makes live remixing an incredible joy..............THANKS ELECTRIX!!!!! Well that's enough for now except to say that I then run fretted and fretless basses through a LINE 6 bass pod into the second input of the primary DL-4 and then have a keyboard triggering an EMU TURBO 4000 sampler, an ALESIS QRS synth module and a recently purchased EMU Audity rhythm based synthesizer (which I don't even know yet for the above mentioned reasons). The last thing I will be incorporating technically will be a newly purchase Yamaha WX5 wind controller to control the pitch of my Repeater and/or my other sound modules. Through all of this, I run a huge potential array (only 5-7 'songs' per gig of course) of over 1,000 ethnic percussion instruments form frame drums to ghatams to udu drums to tabla to dholaks to dumbecs to mrdngms to martha steward brass waste baskets to liquid glass ghatam (my innovation, thanks to inspiration by a good friend of mine, Matt Schreiber) to any number of found or invented percussion objects (green plastic, blue glass, brass candy dishes, springs, tubes, et. al.) Whew...................that does it. yours, Rick Walker (aka Loop.pooL) if you are interested in any more of my career here is a descriptive biography and description of my Loop.pooL live performances: http://www.watershed-arts.com/walker.html Please forgive the hyperbole............this is my hard sell advertisement to try to get Silicon Valley corporations to give me lots of money for gigs.... I'm not nearly as egotistical as it sounds <wipes away sweat from embarrassment and blushes red>