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Speaking of a "DL4 in a rack", I just built a little remote foot controller for my DL4 so I can control the 4 stomp buttons and expression pedal on the floor while keeping the unit on my rack where I can manipulate the settings with my hands. Basically, it's a small box with 4 SPST momentary stomp switches, a 1/4 mono female jack (for the expression pedal), and an 8 lead CAT5 networking jack. Everything is wired simply to the CAT5 jack, then I run a standard cheap, network cable to the DL4 where there's another CAT5 jack in the battery compartment. Then it was just a matter of finding out which connections to solder together. All the stomp switches share a common ground, so you can easily use 5 wires for the 4 foot switchdes, 2 wires for the expression pedal, and have 1 wire left over. It works great and I find I'm using my DL4 more now that it's in hand's reach while keeping the pedals on the floor. Yes, this probably voids the warantee -- and no, I'm not an electrical engineer -- just a soldering hack who hates bending over.... Sorry, no pics... -----Original Message----- From: rich [mailto:rich@nuvisionsca.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:02 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 Echo Pro It's a DL4 in a rack, sych delays, with XLR/Line Level ins and outs. only 500 bills...AND you need a foot controller!