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I wanna go to SLO sooo bad . . But at least I can loop at home, and here's the latest-- I constructed a patch on the PMC to do the thing this thread is about (go to the archives if you have forgotten) and it works like a charm. Here's the deal-- Step on the switch and a command for overdub and zero feedback is sent to the EDP. Release the switch and a command for overdub and 100% feedback (so to speak) is sent to the EDP. The cool thing about this is, as long as you keep your foot on the switch (if it's momentary--if it is configured as toggle you don't have to keep your foot down--hmmm, maybe I should change that) the source material is repeated once along with the new source material (I'm playing guitar, but same no matter), so you can play an extended "duet", two-part invention sort of thing, and then when noodling grows tiresome, play chords the last time and noodle some more over a chord progression. Lots of other possibilities here. So thanks for making me think of this one, it's (as Jonathan said) a real musical approach, and because of the zero feedback thing, less tiresome than the lobster trap gambit. Back to playing--best to all in SLO on Saturday! Gary