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At 1:57 PM -0600 3/7/2002, Bill Cummings wrote: >Yea, and they stole the BASSLINE (for whitelines) from a tune by NY Art >Rock >band, Liquid Liquid !!! Not to mention the bassline to "Good Times" (one of my all-time fave grooves) for Rappers Delight! But I think it's a little unfair to say that they "stole" the musical elements that were used in the early sugarhill rap records. The reason they used the "Good Times" line was because in the clubs at the time, the MC's were using the instrumental 12" mix of the tune to rap over. Probably the same was true of the Liquid Liquid tune. I'm reading an interesting, if rather enthusiastic, and not entirely well-written, but interesting nonetheless, book on the history of DJ's and dance music and clubs called "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life", by Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton, that looks at a lot these issues. BTW, Wimbush has long been one of my fave bassists. The guy manages to totally over the top and completely in the pocket, as the situation demands, I pretty much dig everything he's done. His "Trippy Notes for Bass" cd is quite nice, and aptly titled. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Trenkel New and Improv Music http://www.newandimprov.com improv@peak.org Now Available: Minus: Dark Lit "This is music all-consuming in its beauty and power" -Jake TenPas OSU Daily Barometer -------------------------------------------------------------------------