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in response to dt's comments: i watch zero television but the flipside is that i'm completely out of touch. the only news i get is that from friends, coworkers, etc. although my job requires that i read a few minutes worth of news over the air (radio dj, remember). personally, i just got fed up with plopping myself down in front of the tv and re-emerging hours later only to find that i had a) learned nothing of any value b) wasted 3 hours i could've spent playing music, practicing, etc. between school, a jazz sextet, a rock band, two dogs and a girlfriend, i manage to stay plenty busy without the aide of tv. but that's just me...i still advocate chucking the tv, though ; ) -jim