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"*visiting* us w/o a tv" - funny, whenever the holidays roll around and we accumulate at one family member's house, everyone eventually ends up in front of the tv...usually this motion is lead by the men. "it has never impeded my concentration, nor my workflow" this is the issue in a nutshell...and that, i believe, was my point. as long as it doesn't get in YOUR way. it always seemed to get in mine. with respect, jim