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Re: Behringer FCB1010 HELP!

Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind that we're dealing with two products that are very new to this world. The weird thing is I didn't concider your "one higher" idea, as the numbers seemed to work as they should the way the 1010 came from the factory.

I'm sad about not being able to change output levels too, but it's not the Behringer that's at fault. It's the Repeater. I just found this in the manual:

Appendix G - Track Level PC messages will mute/unmute the particular track. Once a track is muted via a MIDI
PC, unmuting it will restore it to the level as set by the channel fader or the associated MIDI CC message.

What I think it's saying is, "You can mute the outputs. The End." I was counting on that ability, but I guess I didn't read the fine print. Maybe in version 2.0?

I know the Repeater is wonky about MIDI. Maybe the Behringer is fine.... or maybe it's wonky too. Hopefully we can get these two strange beasts working well together. Last night I jammed a bit with the Repeater, now controlled by the 1010 and it was like tossing away crutches after a long leg break. I can keep my hands on the guitar! YAY!

I'll let you know if I figure out anything substantial.

Thanks again,

Mark


On Sunday, March 17, 2002, at 08:52 AM, Michael LaMeyer wrote:

i saw some behavoir like that as well. it turns out that almost
all (but for some reason, not quite all!) pc messages need to be
one number higher than listed in the spec sheet (FX insert =
pc12, not pc11, etc). once i figured that out, i was flying.
however, i'm still using pc4 for record, not 5 as my rule above
would suggest. *shrug* i also suspect that certain
undocumented messages will do things. rather confusing things
actually, if you're merely an unsuspecting foot pedal
programmer.

the one thing i recommend that you refrain from doing, unless
you want to, is to send PC23 thinking that it will enable Audio
Trigger Record, when in fact it turns dry mute on/off. that's
what first got me sctatching my head. other than that, i
haven't had any problems except for assigning the two footpedals
to cc110 and cc111 in order to control track output volumes in
pairs. for some reason foot pedal A appears broken, it won't
send any midi data or change parameter values. and footpedal B
does not sweep across the range, it only switches between mute
and full. can't figure that one out.

and my repeater suddenly stopped sending midi clock at some
point last night. wtf did i accidently press this time?!?!

your brother in pedal programming,

mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net>
To: "Michael LaMeyer" <m.lameyer@verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 HELP

I did pretty much get the 1010 to do what I need it to do...
but not via
PC. I had to use CC messages instead. I can't figure out why
I can
program the CC stuff with no problems at all, then follow
almost the
same procedure for PC and... I could get it to work for some
things, and
not others. I got it to do a PC #2, but it wouldn't do a 14.
Why? Too
tired now to think of it.

Thanks again! Maybe I'll give it another crack tomorrow.

Mark

On Saturday, March 16, 2002, at 10:24 PM, Michael LaMeyer
wrote:
do you have a chat client or something? i would walk you
through a couple edits online *shrug* that's all i'm doing
right now is progamming my 1010 ...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 12:27 AM
Subject: Behringer FCB1010 HELP!


Oh mein gott in himmel! This manual SUCKS. I've gone
through
the steps
10 times now, and I can't for the life of me figure out the
simplest of
programming changes. What the hell? Is there a trick I'm
missing?
Thanks,

Mark Sottilaro