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Quoting plain jane <info@plainjanemusic.com>: > Is this a common problem with the vortex or is there something I'm > doing wrong with the Repeater. I do _exactly_ the same thing, and have _exactly_ the same problem. Though I do notice that the latency on having the FX loop on the signal input is a much bigger issue for me. the problem with the volume drop is merely that the Vortex operates at -10db, and the Repeater is expecting +4 (i think ... please correct me if i'm wrong). i personally don't find this _too_ irritating, only mildly. i'm just happy to have an effects loop at all. Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com