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--- Jimmy Fowler <jimfowler@prodigy.net> wrote: > Honestly, the audiophile community hasn't provided > sufficient data to back their claims. Agreed. They've provided a lot of subjective pseudo-scientific babble and bizarre theories (skin effect, etc) which can't be proven (or can't be proven at audio frequencies). I could possibly believe that there might be something in some of these cases, but any valid subjective claims get mixed in with the more outlandish unsubstantiatable claims and discredited. > "We" cable makers & users & listeners, are satisfied > with a less rigorous (yet valid) scientific methodology: As a skeptical consumer, when presented with no objective evidence of a dubious audio claim, I'm satisfied to believe someone is attempting to sell me snake oil. For my subjective story, I have some Monster tt patch cords in my studio I got in a package of used equipment. I don't hear any difference between them and the other patchcords I have. If anything, I don't like them as much because they're physically stiff. They also seem to fail more often then my other patch cords (but I don't know their history, so that might not be a fair point of evaluation). And as someone who has a limited equipment budget, I'm generally satisfied with buying good quality cable (Canare, Mogami) and good connectors (Neutrik) and making my own. They're less expensive this way, and easier to repair if they break. > We listen to a conductor one way vs. another > repeatedly and chart our > results... one way being preferred over another... > hence validating the > existence of a difference and the need to pay some > attention to it when making cable. All this manual work to validate the directionality of a cable would certainly explain why they cost so much. Given the absence of anything you can measure with a machine, it would appear this is the only way to do it. > The difference IS pretty damn small. Kind of like how you sometimes think you hear a difference when you twist an EQ knob, only to later discover that the EQ was bypassed? That's embarrassing, but it happens. > A larger difference for directionality in cables > deals with the shield being > attached at one end, to bleed off interference > picked up by the shield to > the chassis ground of the equipment with a lower > ground potential... That's the only time I think a cable would really be directional. If the shield is isolated from the signal conductors and attached at one end, you have the opportunity to send it to the device with a more direct ground and potentially decrease your noise floor a few db while reducing the possibility of ground loops between equipment. Win-win. (provided you have enough wires in the cable to carry all the signals you need without needing to use the shield to do double duty carrying a signal ground). Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/