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How right ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: O.T. Computers > The best thing about older PCs was they used to sometimes have "Turbo" > buttons that would feed the exhaust back into the processor and you'd > get a great kind of flanging tone from it. > > Mark > > On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 11:07 PM, Luigi Meloni wrote: > > > That's the reason why his are so rare and sound better. I still have an > > AMD > > 486 dx2 80Mhz that I use for midi sequences with a very old Cakewalk > > version > > and Win3.11. 8Mb of ram and it sounds great. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Cummings" <billcumm@sprynet.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:02 AM > > Subject: Re: O.T. Computers > > > > > >> hahahaha, they didn't make 486's till 92/93 > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" <ssrndpty@hotmail.com> > >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:13 PM > >> Subject: Re: O.T. Computers > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Well, if it's tone your looking for, you are probably best using an > >>> underclocked 486 (from '86- to '89), with no more than 4 megs of ram. > > You > >>> can't buy them any more, but there are two in my garage that I'm > >>> willing > >> to > >>> part with for an exorbitant amount of money. > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> > >>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > >>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:43 PM > >>> Subject: Re: O.T. Computers > >>> > >>> > >>>> Also, the G4 RISK processor sounds a lot warmer than Intel chips, in > > my > >>>> opinion. I think it has something to do with the way that Floating > >> Point > >>> Unit > >>>> floats. > >>>> > >>>> Mark > >>>> > >>>> Luigi Meloni wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> That is the reason why i still use Win98se. I've got WinMe on my > >>> notebook > >>>>> and I think it sucks. The only good thing in it is the fact it can > > use > >>> WDM > >>>>> drivers, which in cakewalk products allow a very little latency. > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> > >>>>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:58 AM > >>>>> Subject: Re: O.T. Computers > >>>>> > >>>>>> No offense taken. I have Macs and PCs and drive a Golf. I'm not > >>> saying > >>>>> Apple > >>>>>> is without sin, but when I hear that every time you add hardware > > to > >>> your > >>>>> PC > >>>>>> you've got to get a new serial number to run Windows XP, I cringe. > >>> That's > >>>>>> pretty damn evil. I like this debate, but it's a lot like > > religion. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hey I drive a Saturn and use a PC? What does that mean? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mark I meant no disrespect by my last message. That whole "evil > >>> empire" > >>>>>>> thing just gets under my skin sometimes...maybe I've read one to > >>> many > >>>>> Ayn > >>>>>>> Rand books... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> and for this question... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> If I had a peice of gear that would only run on OS 9, and would > >>> never > >>>>> have > >>>>>>> it's drivers upgraded ever, what would you recomend to house the > >>> beast? > >>>>> What > >>>>>>> would be the cheapest option? What would I get from a more > >> expensive > >>>>> unit, > >>>>>>> considering that I will never be able to upgrade it? What kind > > of > >>>>> software > >>>>>>> will 'never go away'? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The gear in question is a Korg Oasys card. Probably the best > >>>>> price/features > >>>>>>> deal ever - more powerful than a Digi farm card, latency down to > >> 1.5 > >>> ms, > >>>>>>> ASIO, ADAT I/O, comes with more than half the Triton sample > > sound > >>> set, > >>>>> does > >>>>>>> Z1 style synthesis, awesome AD/DA, but no support, no drivers, > >> ever. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, here's the deal. I've got an Aurora Fuse video capture > > card. > >>> Was > >>>>> the > >>>>>> best I could afford at the time. Aurora has stated that they will > >>> NEVER > >>>>> write > >>>>>> an OSX driver for it. They will give me their Igniter card... if > > I > >>> give > >>>>> up > >>>>>> another $500. Frankly, at that point, I'd sooner get a DV camera > >> and > >>> to > >>>>> DV, > >>>>>> since I'm using Final Cut Pro anyway, and have the Igniter RT card > >> at > >>>>> work. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So.... When I need to capture analog video, or record in DP3, I > >> reboot > >>>>> into OS > >>>>>> 9. It's a pretty good OS, all in all. Sure, OSX is better, but > >> it's > >>>>> still > >>>>>> very new. I'm impressed at how little I've got to launch the > >> "Classic > >>>>>> environment" these days. If you really need a Mac box, I'd look > > for > >> a > >>>>> used > >>>>>> high end G3 or low end G4 and just stick to OS 9.2 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mark > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > >