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apart from level management, i've also found it difficult at times to manage mud in loops once you start layering. especially when looping the same instrument, or in my case at least, percussion sounds that have a bit too much frequency overlap. there's tried and true techniques like less-is-more/silence-is-your-friend, and cleaning the palette/fading out elements over time of course. thoughts? particuarily interested in what the bass loopers have to say, since i imagine that they encounter this early on. mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg House" <ghunicycle@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: Re: OT Re: Compressor/Limiter recommendations > --- Mark Hamburg <mark_hamburg@baymoon.com> wrote: > > > I definitely appreciate the value of dynamic range. I probably should > > have > > expressed this more as a search for a good limiter so that I can run > > my > > signal reasonably hot without worrying about digital clipping if I > > get a bit louder in spots. > > I have constant problems with levels getting whacked out in my looping > rig. It seems that the nature of stacking layers in delays just > naturally builds up the levels and it's hard to keep things even and > under control. I'm not using any compression right now (beyond what I > start with on my guitar signal), but I may think about it at some > point. > > > The RNC gets lots of good reviews but seems mostly to be a > > compressor. Any limiter specific recommendations? > > The RNC will work just fine as a limiter. A limiter's just a compressor > with a high ratio and a fast response. The RNC has the fastest attack > time I've seen on a compressor (not always a good thing...<grin>). I > have a couple of them in my studio and they're nice when you need to > get levels under control without hearing 'em. Sure you can MAKE 'em > pump, if that's what you're after, but it's harder then with a lot of > compressors. > > > I take it that the ART Tube MP is a reasonable option? > > It wouldn't be my first choice...but that's primarily just based on my > experience with other ART gear and a few tracks I've heard here and > there that used them (which weren't recorded when I could see/hear how > they were done, so this may be unfair). > > Personally, I'd avoid the dbx compressors unless you want your sound > colored like a dbx. They have a definite sound and you may not want > that. Oh yeah, and forget the dbxes if you want to run it at instrument > level, they're too noisy. > > For transparent line level compression, the RNC is hard to beat for the > price. If you want to spend more and get a more flexable unit, the > Empirical Labs Distressor is a great sounding studio compressor that > can emulate many classic units costing much more. It's mono, so if you > want stereo you have to buy two. Line level only. For a compressor of > it's calibre, it's really a pretty good value too. > > It sounds like you have two applications in mind. First, the guitar > (instrument) compressor to shape your sound, and second some > transparent limiters to give you more freedom from level problems while > you're perform (probably line level). > > I haven't found a guitar compressor I totally like yet. I used a Boss > CS-3 for awhile and regardless of where you set the knobs, it > accentuates the inital attack more then I like. I want the sustain > without the attack and I could never get that from this box. That said, > a lot of people love these. For that clean country solo sound, this is > it. > > If you want to talk offline, I have a couple of Symetrix compressors > that I'd like to sell. Rack mount (1u), line level, stereo or dual > mono, real power supplies (no warts). They're more transparent then a > dbx, somewhat less so then an RNC. Overall, I think they sound pretty > good. > > Greg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > http://games.yahoo.com/ >