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> I have NEVER heard a jam as cohesive as a Phish jam > (post '94 let's say), at > an open jam night. Have you? If so, where can I go > to hear such awesome > jams and interconnectedness from people who have > JUST met each other that > night/recently? they as a group vibe well off of each other, but it is the individual musicians that make it so good. i don't know if you've ever seen any of the members play with other projects or special guest with anyone, but they still display the ability to listen and play based on what they hear. true, they are so tight because of the years together, but as individual musicians, they can walk on stage with an act that they may have never heard before and still tear it up...sure, it won't be as mind boggling as seeing them together, but you still get the point that they are listening and playing based on what they hear going on around them. i often get together with various friends to have jam sessions and the faces their are always changing...and at times, you get to play with new people or people you haven't played with for months or even years, but still...everyone is listening and vibing off of the whole as opposed to trying to run through songs or things that we are practicing on our own. it seems that there is an off-list NY jam getting pulled together (as i've received a few messages from new yorkers looking to get together to jam - with or without all the fancy gear) and i'm sure that it won't be magic for the full jam session (as few jams sessions are), but i'm also sure that there will be some magic moments and even a few solid start to finish improv jams. its all about hooking up and connecting...sometimes you can do it and sometimes you can't but usually what it comes down to is some people can do it and some people can't... by the way, without trey's use of the boomerang, i might have never discovered the wonderful world of looping... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/