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>...all that i remember is chatting with pedro > and grace a bit about their setups and what they use > loopers for, i remember a fretless guitar player who > had very solid leadership potential, but others > weren't vibing off of his lead to push things forward, >That fretless guitar player was me. Not musical enough >for you? ;) okay, now I know who you are…actually my comments were more geared around the fact that you were trying to create a communication link and progress/evolve a jam into something musical and structured while others were just making noise on top (which there is nothing wrong with – but makes me question whether or not people are just playing with buttons or trying to make music in the first place…because I’m not interested in getting together to push buttons…I am VERY interested in getting together to see how and what kind of music people are making with this gear and to learn and teach through playing and watching). Every time you would let go of any kind of structure, the full sound would get lost in a chaotic mesh of unsynched loops and several locals from the area were gathering outside peering in looking for aliens (which was quite entertaining). You did some pretty cool things and from what I’ve seen (which wasn’t much), you can play and I’d call your end product music…however, from what I’ve seen (which still isn’t much), I don’t understand why you have such a huge chip on your shoulder and made such hostile comments towards my playing which you’ve never heard. I am very impressed with your use of fretless guitar as I am a big fan and supporter of anyone trying to do something different. And to be totally and completely honest…from what I saw/heard you do (which may or may not be a good representation of what you are capable of) I don’t know where you get off thinking that you are the end all and have the right to assume that you are more or less musically inclined than I or anyone else on this list is…and at this point, I know that you don’t care about my opinion or views because you have already written me off as some clueless person who knows nothing about music (which is the impression that you’ve given me from your posts on the subject), but I’m still ready and willing to jam with you and put all of this bs behind us for the sake of making music…but again, the ball is in your court on that one. And to anyone in NY area, I am still gathering names to try and pool together gear/gearless…whatever jam sessions because after all, music is or should be the bottom line and the general consensus from list and off list replies that I’ve received, it seems that a bunch of people are ready to put tastes and opinions aside to make some music. >BTW: Pedro & GP. are amazing.....they are > loopologists supreme! Which I too picked up and was why I spoke to them. I believe I even chatted with you for a moment or two about your setup, but I still don’t understand the hostility. So do you forgive me for my off-color honest comments about what I’ve seen in and out of performances with members of this list and not of this list (which had no bearing on your playing whatsoever) or am I still just an ass in your book? Either way, I could care less how you feel about me, but I’d like to be able to have my bassist personality hook up with your fretless guitar personality to make music (we don’t even need to say hello or goodbye or shake hands or anything…we can just plug in and go…and then pack up and go home after jamming) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/