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a normal april wed...slow day at work...a question concerning compression use all over the place for that optimum recording...a remark on the importance of dynamics...a comment on focussing on what is being looped and manipulated with gear (music) vs the actual instruments that do the manipulation. what came of it? a few sour remarks, a few people getting offended, a few minds flexing providing point on top of point on top of counter point and a really nice discussion on art and music and interpretation of that art/music and opinions. not bad in a day. lots of great points were made and (aside from putting my foot in my mouth a few times) i learned a lot and got to re-evaluate some of my thoughts and statements...but the most important thing that came of it... a tremendous response to a request for some jamming in new york with/without fancy rigs and with any number of people! do i feel bad that i offended some people, sure...but i'm really glad that this thread happened. for those who have already responded to me privately about getting together to jam...expect individual replies and i am eager to jam with all of you! since i got a pretty nice response i was thinking of maybe putting together a list of all the people looking to jam with new players containing names, email addresses, phone numbers (if people are up for it), and any other info that could be helpful in finding people to play with for fun or for projects in the ny area. what are your thoughts about this? email me privately if you want to be included in this with any information that you want others to see...if you want to include the styles of music that you are looking to play or if you want to give yourself a skill rating to prevent or promote certain players to contact you (whatever you feel would help you find people that would be if nothing else...fun to jam with) send it along. also if you like send along availability, like weekends only...or whatever you think is important to include. i'm thinking that the only stipulation for this is in order to get a copy of the list of musicians, you need to put yourself on it...is that a good idea? once compiled (if there is more than 3 people who want to do this), i'll send it out... because apparently, the great thing about open loop NY (which i guess i was unaware of) is that there are no rules. all out free for all (with organization of course)...which can be great fun and can provide great music/noise/debates...and again, apologies to any loopers who took offense to my remarks about the open loop, i look forward to making music (with nobs, buttons, and all) with you in the future. ya smell that? it's the power of the listserve... from the darkest clouds comes the brightest light, e va n|s sa b __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/