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I asked a contact at Big Briar who replied (in response to your question): "Piece of cake if you have a CP-251 control processor. Turn the LFO rate all the way down, patch the square wave into the Rate input, and the waveform at the triangle wave output will be a falling sawtooth wave of 1/60 Hz (actually the one I measured came in at 55 seconds/cycle - pretty dang close). If you want a rising sawtooth, run it through the mixer and use the inverting output." Use the above CV to control the Rate on the Big Briar phaser and you are set. Now that I know how to do this, and since I have both pieces of gear here, I'm going to have to try it out :). Kudos to Big Briar for cool gear and tech support. obLoop: so if I do give this a try and like it, the only item I've got here that'll loop 60seconds is the Repeater. Maybe try it in reverse and use the 60secsawtoothphaser as a kind of "paragraph" delimiter to modulate a shorter loop "sentence". best, Steve Burnett burnett@pobox.com On Mon, 6 May 2002, Reid, Benjamin wrote: > exactly what I'm looking for. thanks for the tips!! (now to come up with >the > cash...) > > -----Original Message----- > From: burnett@pobox.com [mailto:burnett@pobox.com] > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:40 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Peter Underwood wrote: > > > I hear that the Big Briar Phaser whoops a llama's ass, but I haven't > > personally tried it. > > I've got the Big Briar phaser and love it. Its rate control is >adjustable > down to 1 cycle per 100 seconds. It doesn't do a sawtooth, though, to >the > best of my understanding. > > The Big Briar CP-251 Control Processor has a triangular and a square >wave > output from its LFO, and can be used to control the rate on the BBriar > phaser. While the LFO on the Control Processor has a Rate knob labeled > from 0.2 cycles/second to 50 cycles/second, the manual reads: > "The LFO frequency can go both lower than the minimum calibration on the > RATE control by applying a negative control voltage...The minimum > frequency is less than 0.03 Hz (one cycle every 33 seconds)." > > (which is really cool to know, as I hadn't looked at that page before > today). > > So you can get a sine wave cycle of 100sec, or a triangular of 33 >seconds, > but I don't know how to get a sawtooth waveform with a 60sec cycle. If >you > can find a way to generate a sawtooth coontrol voltage signal of 0-5v > with a 60 second cycle you can use that to control the rate of the Big > Briar phaser and get what you're looking for. > > best, > Steve Burnett > burnett@pobox.com > > > > > > > >http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spec/103.html?L+scstore+g > gwp2101ff5c9c5c+1041770651 > > > > > > >From: "Reid, Benjamin" <BReid@about-inc.com> > > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > > ><Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > >Subject: OT: Phaser recommend > > >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:33:20 -0400 > > > > > >Sorry for OT post but this is a good group to query. Wondering if >people > > >have a recommend on a dedicated commercial or kit phaser. I am looking > for > > >one that is already very versitile or can be modded to produce a very > long > > >phase period (up to 60 seconds). Additionally, a sawtooth waveform >would > be > > >super-cool as well. Most of the commercial pedals I have seen are not > > >extreme enough for my purposes; some kits I have found online look > > >promising; I have not investigated rackmount units yet. > > > > > >Any suggestions are appreciated!! > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > >