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right. essentially, by 'mess with stuff' i was attempting to imply that just about any approach you could come up with has the potential to further your looping development. basically, just dig in and start doing it. fwiw, i started out with long delay times, high feedback (classic). then, i started manipulating the feedback with a pedal, then i started messing with delay times and/or feedback and/or other parameters, then i tried out feeding two delays into each other, manipulating feedback and delay times between them & playing with crossfading, then i went back to simply long delay times and high feedback, but tried out things with my instruments that i hadn't done before like running the delays with no sync, then i got REAL wack and started modulating as many elements of my signal chain as possible just to see wtf would happen (running one delay through some crazy processing and the other one through something else, preferrably some kind of vocal-based modulation a la vocorder/talkbox, WHILE splitting the output signal from both delays and feeding the "dry" delays into each like before but with a crossfade pedal to control amount/feedback), then i got a repeater and now i've got two delays/modulators and a 4-track sampling looper going and things rapidly get out of hand .... whatever you do, just pay attention and you'll learn all about it ... ;-) mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Sandberg" <stevesandberg@earthlink.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V02 #293 > I agree with "mess with stuff". > Another good thing to try is to isolate elements and use only those. E>G> I > have 2 synths, vocals, 2 edps and a headrush -- so sometimes I just use the > headrush and one synth and play for an hour, sometimes only vocals and edps. > >> > >> I'd like to ask the members of the list what approach > >> you took to making loop-based music when just starting out? > >> Sincerely, > >> Chris Olden > >> > >