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> > for practicing purposes...even a little live playing...i would try the >akai > headrush. > > it won't enter overdub mode until you hit "overdub". it's affordable > (probably around 140 used) and easy to operate. > > i used one for a year before i "graduated" to the edp, which blows the >akai > away (needless to say), but for what you've described, the akai would be >a > wise investment. > > -jim > Hi Jim, I've considered the Headrush, but I was put off by the 11.9 second loop time when overdubbing. It amazes me that Akai made the decision to halve the overdub loop time in order to support undo. I guess some people like the undo feature, but there are plenty of others I'm sure (like me) who would prefer the 23.8 loop time with overdubbing at the expense of the undo function. Even better would be a switch which would allow the user to decide between undo and the longer loop time w/ overdub. At the cost of 50 cents for a switch, Akai probably could have sold a lot more units! Also, I like the idea that the DL4 has true bypass, and that the DL4 has good delay effects that I could still use even if I later got a more capable looper. Actually, the Echo Pro seems to me to be a nice unit: 60 sec. loop time + MIDI control + nice delays, but it's $500 and then you still need a MIDI controller for $100+. That's a bit much for me right now... Thanks, Keith