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>>> The DL-4 is an amazing instrument...........it still does things on the fly that the repeater can't do (specifically doubling/halving/forward/reverse) WITH the addition of digital delays that can be controlled with one's foot by an expression pedal.<<< I too love the DL4 - in conjunction with an EDP and my MPX-G2, it's incredible - certainly not something I'd get rid of... I may be removing the JamMan from my regular rack (keeping it, but just not carrying it around all the time)... Rick's work with 2 DL4s is fantastic - definitely makes me lust after a second one... a word of warning though, if Richard Zvonar approaches the stage with shoes in hand, hide your pedals... :o) Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk www.pillowmountainrecords.co.uk