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>(I know not much about vocoders), but how can you use a vocoder for pitchshifting? It can be done by changing the relationship between the analysing filters and the synthesising ones: Think of a vocoder like this: (physically impossible thought experiment follows) You feed your voice into a spectrum analyser and the sound that you want to make 'talk' into a graphic equaliser with the same frequency bands as the spectrum analyser. Now rig things so that as the columns of lights on the spectrum analyser go up and down they wiggle the corresponding graphic eq slider up and down.. this is how a vocoder works. Now if you shift one of the components off to the side so that whereas before the 100Hz->200Hz band on the analyser was wiggling the 100Hz-200Hz slider on the graphic eq it now wiggles the 600->700Hz slider you've ended up with a pitch shift of sorts... even weirder things can happen if you flip one unit round so all the high tones in the 'voice' signal are modulating the low tones on the synth signal, IIRC some early analogue vocoders used to have a patch bay to allow this sort of experimentation. nowadays when it would be really easy to do this sort of thing digitally no one seems to go beyond the norm.. pity :-) Hope that helps a bit, Robin. ==================================================================== The contents and any attachments of this electronic mail message are confidential and intended only for the named addressees. Dissemination, forwarding, publication or other use of the message or attachments by any unauthorised person is strictly prohibited. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions expressed in this message are personal and may not be attributed to AXA Sun Life or any member of the AXA Group of Companies. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. AXA Group does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.