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I use the mighty Boss RC-20, so I'll try answering this, though I think the answers will be true for other loop devices as well. The way the RC-20 works is you hit the Record/Overdub pedal, and it records whatever signal(music) is going in. It keeps on recording until you hit the Rec/ODub pedal again. Then it immediately repeats what was recorded, over and over, indefinitely. There is no decay, and no provision for a pause between repetitions. If you want a specific number of repetitions of your loop, you'll have to count them as you perform. In order to add a silent delay between the sounds, you would need to record it into the loop. Eg. hit the Rec/ODub pedal, record sounds, either stop making any sound or mute the signal for the desired 'delay', then hit the Rec/ODub pedal again. Once you have recorded sound/silence in a track, the Rec/ODub pedal will layer new sounds on top of the first. All of this together is your loop, and the RC-20 can play only one loop at a time. It does have the capability to store 11 loops, but they must be played independently. If you are starting from scratch in a live performance, the multiple loops won't do you any good, though you might consider a low level pre- recorded drone, such as an organ chord, as background. The 5.5 min recording time is available to a single loop. Yours in rhythm, Steve -------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:27:08 -0700 From: "W. L. Altman" <waltman@mta.ca> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: naiive asks about Boss RC-20 You folks seem pretty high-end, so I'm going to sound pretty dopey. But I want desperately to find an effect that will give me a very long delay with a long ( adjustable) decay time. With my dream tool I could: - Set a long delay time (10 seconds for the piece I'm working out now, but in the future the longer the better). - set the number of repeats of each layer - the idea being that material will pass in and out of the texture for a pre-determined duration. - set the decay rate or curve. So (for example) I could have my analog signal continually overdubbing, repeating every 10 seconds, repeating 10 times and I could set the loops to either keep a consistent volume through the 10 reps and then drop out, leaving later material still repeating - OR i could set a certain decay curve so that the earlier material fades to zero while new material is always predominant. Oh and this is all real-time. No bringing saved loops to the gig. Anyway, I've played with a Jamman with extra 32" memory and although it doesn't have all the features I am keeping my eye out for one. The features of the BOSS RC-20 seem interesting at the price to me. Fiddling with dials during performance is not necesarilly a problem since this is for a vocalist seated in front of the toys. So for those with experience with the RC-20: Can I loop indefinate # of loops up to the 5:30 limit? If it plays only ten loops, are these played real-time, simultaneously, and can I record the 10th loop while the previous 9 are playing? Do any of these questions make sense? For the piece I'm working on, I could make ten reps work since i have other effects going on. Tempo, quantizing, etc are of not a concern. I will not use this as a practicing tool. Also I imagine that with a looper as opposed to an echo-style delay unit, I won't get ANY decay, but for me that's better than having a decay that I can't finely adjust. OK. So if anyone has advice on the BOSS, or wants to suggest a similarly (or lower - ) priced alternative for my proposed purposes, I'd be greatly grateful! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com